Hello, Horny Readers!
I pose a question to you: Is coerced feminization more humiliating without girly grooming?
I ask because tonight I was thinking back over what one thing characterizes most of My feminization training sessions. So many who come to Me yearning to be humiliated and excited by being coerced into putting on pretty, girly things focus on the clothes. They are aroused by the idea of being made to put on bras and panties and stockings and such. But I always tell them that if they can get away with it (some have housemates or partners who don’t know about their kinks and would notice if there were changes like this), feminization should work from the inside out.
My regular readers and playmates know that for Me, the exploration of almost any kink starts by getting into the psychological space that allows them to surrender both to the kink, and to Me. With feminization, after a few tweaks to what’s going on between the ears of a girly-pet, I usually either fantasize with them about, or try to seduce them into the idea of doing something a little more daring and a little more long-lasting than putting on lingerie–namely, removing body hair, putting on makeup, and even getting a mani-pedi at a spa with their newly-shaved legs. But that got me thinking . . . would it be even more humiliating to be made to dress and act “girly” if you were still obviously and overtly masculine in terms of grooming?
Which would make you squirm more: Putting on a pink satin maid’s uniform, stockings, toque, and breast forms after having removed all of your body hair and plucking your eyebrows into a nice feminine arch, or putting on the same outfit when you’ve got five o’clock shadow, or better yet, a mustache and goatee? Would you feel more humiliated with nice smooth legs under those stockings, or profuse and curly leg hair in evidence under the nylon?
Tonight I was wondering whether or not it might be more humiliating not to be allowed to remove some of the surface trappings of masculinity when putting on feminine clothes! What do you think?
Miss Rachel, I suspect that you’ll get quite a cross section of opinions here, depending on who you ask.
I identify as transgender, and am always terrified of any male characteristics showing through when I’m dressed. To have you not allow me to remove some of those male signals would be a horribly humiliating experience for me.
But to go slightly off question though, the idea of going beyond the point of no return into more long-lasting or permanent changes is a whole different form of humiliation for me. To hear you snickering as I look in the mirror and realize that I can’t undo the changes you’ve made would be humiliating in a squirmy and exciting sorta way!
Thanks for the great post, Miss Rachel. Your posts are always well written, thought provoking, and exciting!
Thank you, jemmie! You know, I wasn’t really thinking of transwomen when writing that post. It seems that keeping a transwoman from ridding herself of the trappings of a body she wasn’t meant to be in would be a different kind of humiliation altogether, the not fun or erotic kind. But the next paragraph, now *that’s* exciting! Thanks for reading, and taking the time to comment!
You know I never thought of the idea of telling a sissy that she could not shave her legs as far as humiliating her. I have found many crossdressers not care if they have hairy legs. They just like the feel of the fabric. Those are pretty much the one’s that are in the closet so to speak. But, the one’s that truly want to be a female are all about it, and would be mortified by the thought of looking masculine sort of like a born woman being asked to not shave. This post was fantastic!! Thanks!
I’m glad you enjoyed it, Miss Simone! I think maybe the distinction for me, as evidenced in my reply to jemmie, is if the feminized pet is transgender (basically, simply a woman who is submissive), I wouldn’t do this unless she was into real and serious degradation, and even then I’d probably feel funny about it. And you’re right about crossdressers, those who are all about the clothes. But sissies–it seems as if you could play with the idea that they’ll never be real men and they’ll never be real women with this technique, if that’s their hot (slut) button.
I’m not sure which is more humiliating, but I prefer a more congruous feminization. When I watch porn with a masculine sissy or a physically unappealing sub it always takes me out a little bit. I tend to find the incongruity to be more annoying that humailiating.
Pupslave! You managed to get a comment through! You’ve told me before that you’ve tried to comment on my blog posts, and they never went through! What ever has changed, I’m glad of it!
That said, your comment is interesting, given your particular case. You are a young, smooth, innocent-looking male, who would probably please any non-dominant female to be with in that capacity, but those are also qualities that make you ideal for feminization!
*blush* If You keep flattering me like this, Goddess, I may start to get full of myself. Of course, that might not be so bad. After all, it would provide an opportunity for You to swat me down.
I was just thinking about that, fuckslut. lol You wouldn’t dare forget yourself, because you’d know what you’d get if you did!
Ahahaha I love this idea, Miss Rachel! Personally, I would be mortified to be caught unshaven or unwaxed in a bikini, shorts, or anything else, really. For a sissy or transgender male with so much more hair, I can imagine it’s mortifying. Can you imagine a party full of us sexy women all laughing at sissy about her ugly, ungroomed body hair? Hee hee hee! I think I know what I’m doing this Saturday night … 🙂
Uh oh! lol Sounds like some sissies are in for it! Thank you for visiting my blog Miss Melanie!
Great post and good questions, Ms. Rachel!
With those sissies who -for practical reasons, cannot shave their legs, chest, underarms, etc., as they would love to be able to do- but are militant about ALWAYS keeping the front lawn well-groomed, I think The notion of their being unable to attend to that area at all is a horrifying and most embarrassing prospect for many. The idea of having a full bush -a hairy, tangled, manly mess- in THE ONE PLACE they can and want to appear more feminine is the worst.
(It’s been my experience that this mindset can apply equally to crossdressers -both recreational and lifestyle- who assign great importance to manscaping and enjoy humiliation as a part of their experience. I VERY rarely engage in any form of TG humiliation, as I feel it is counterproductive in multiple directions.)
So… Yes. It may not be feasible for a sissy or CD to experiment with the potential joy or humiliation of shaving anywhere else, but they remain resolutely committed to keeping those naughty bits tidy (almost or completely bare), so they can at least look feminine in panties, tap pants, skimpy pj bottoms or the like. To look in a mirror or present themselves to a Mistress with a wild jungle crotch would send them into a humiliated tailspin. No one wants to see a massive tumbleweed in a sissy’s or crossdresser’s undergarments!
Now that I think about it, I’m sure unruly pubes would be just as terrifying for those who CAN freely shave all over – and are smooth everywhere but “down there”.
Thank you for visiting my blog, Miss EmmaJane! I like that idea–getting rid of those pubes, even IF all that matters to a CD is the clothes!
Ms. Rachel, Men began asking their wives and girlfriends to do it because it made giving oral sex that more pleasant. So it’s only fair that feminine men to denude penises and testicles and to trim back the rest. Time to mow down the sides girls, because the more skin is shown, the more trimming is needed.
Good thoughts, Miss Cindy!
The grooming seems to be more important in my training to Ms Tia.
She has kept me completely shaven for weeks at a time on occasion.
It does make me think of Her constantly and it does make me feel more aware of my submission.
If She has me keep my toenails painted as well – all the hard work is done.
She can turn me into a slut pretty fast and easy at that point.
If She adds lipstick, panties, stocking and garters I am pretty slutty and submissive.
Well I’d consider you pretty slutty and submissive NOW, fuckslut! So just imagine what we could get you to do with all those changes! As I recall, Miss Tia is working up to all of that!
Definitely more erotic and humiliating if done to the max. Think about it, when something is deliberately done and not easily undone, shaving, etc. it makes it obvious that you are a fucktoy, a sissy slut, and not just casually messing around. This was the case for all my main changes, the less undo-able the more humiliating and sexy and horny they made me. Showing up with long nails painted perfectly implies obvious effort at being a slut sissy. My nipple piercings, my belly button piercing, my tattoos, and most importantly my breast enhancements were all very important to making me a submissive sissy and not easy to undo. But the first time I took a man between my new tits, had him tit fuck me and unload his cum all over my face while twisting my nipple rings, well, it made it all worthwhile.
Well I know *I’m* partial to the complete transformation, vanilla! Saucy and illuminating comment! Thanks!
Okay honesty time.
I don’t like to shave my legs, and I don’t like to shave my, um, I would say manhood but you might disagree with that classification 😉
When I’m in the sissy mood I like to be told I have to groom because it symbolic, it makes it clear that it is her choice, not mine. It is a modification of my natural state because she wants it modified, and for submissive play, it is far less permanent of a modification than tats or piercings would be.
It is me conforming to what she is molding me into.
As far as humiliation is concerned, I can’t say that it ads to the humiliation. The humiliation for me comes when it is clear that she requires this of me, but not another man.
That’s the way I tend to think of it, Alice! Thanks for visiting!
Are we talking about getting caught while being dressed ?
No, just in terms of self-concept. 🙂
Dear Mistress Rachel,
i’m new here. i must say that i find Your mindset, point of view, attitude, and question very interesting and provocative.
i am not a sissy or TV. i have no crossdressing fantasies per se. The thought of wearing Women’s lingerie does not arouse me. What does arouse me is the humiliation of being forced to for Your amusement, entertainment, and pleasure.
Ditto concerning my pubic hair. Losing that symbol of my manhood for Your amusement would be very humiliating. It would be a symbol of Your control and ownership of my genitals. Whether You had me shave it off, or You chose to remove it Yourself. (Brazilian bikini wax, anyone?) Personally, the further You took the hair removal, the more humiliating have would find it.
Again, personally, as a chronic and unrepentant jagoff, i crave Your humiliation and would hope that You would be as creative as possible.
Humbly,
jagoff
Well I can tell you, if you were under my control, you would be hairless from nose to toes! My favorite part of humiliating a “man” through hair removal is when I make him turn his back to me, put his forehead against the shower tiles, reach back with both hands, and spread his ass cheeks so that I can make sure he’s *really* hairless. I think you sound like the type whose chronic masturbation should be punished and controlled with the specter of feminization as a training tool!
would love to find a women who would feminize me its where to find one I am on fetlife been on there 5 years and still not met anyone
I agree, it’s tough to find in flesh and blood life. At least you have US!